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Dec 25th, 2017, 8:59 am
I was going to switch over to the topic of worldwide test cricket rankings, but instead let's take notice of Australian Captain Steve Smith, the best since Bradman . . .

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/th ... 8a8de39863

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Dec 25th, 2017, 8:59 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle
Dec 29th, 2017, 6:24 pm
cricket is a foreign language to me. as is soccor
Dec 29th, 2017, 6:24 pm

Peace out!
Dec 30th, 2017, 2:43 am
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-30/t ... tion=sport

slynch, although I never played cricket myself but only baseball, in the middle part of my life I learned quite a lot about it, and enjoy seeing how cricket and baseball evolved out of the same ancient game. There's even a game still played in England, called 'rounders,' which the locals think is much like baseball.

5th day of the current 'Ashes' test sees Australia hanging on for a draw (meaning that neither side was able to bowl out the other side twice) and shows how different this sport is from baseball . . . guess it's like extra innings, except that no-one wins in the end.

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Did you every read Dan Barry's memorable 'Bottom of the 33rd' about the longest game in professional baseball history? I think it was a AAA minor league game and the book is quite unforgettable. I've enjoyed reading a number of books about the players who spend years in the minors, sometimes making it to the majors, but usually not. My brother knows two men in Maine who took this route, a father and his son. It's a tough world . . .

“Bottom of the 33rd is chaw-chewing, sunflower-spitting, pine tar proof that too much baseball is never enough.” —Jane Leavy, author of The Last Boy and Sandy Koufax

“What a book—an exquisite exercise in story-telling, democracy and myth-making.” —Colum McCann, winner of the National Book Award for Let The Great World Spin

From Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times columnist Dan Barry comes the beautifully recounted story of the longest game in baseball history—a tale celebrating not only the robust intensity of baseball, but the aspirational ideal epitomized by the hard-fighting players of the minor leagues. In the tradition of Moneyball, The Last Hero, and Wicked Good Year, Barry’s Bottom of the 33rd is a reaffirming story of the American Dream finding its greatest expression in timeless contests of the Great American Pastime.

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On April 18, 1981, a ball game sprang eternal. What began as a modestly attended minor-league game between the Pawtucket Red Sox and the Rochester Red Wings became not only the longest ever played in baseball history, but something else entirely. The first pitch was thrown after dusk on Holy Saturday, and for the next eight hours the night seemed to suspend its participants between their collective pasts and futures, between their collective sorrows and joys—the ballplayers; the umpires; Pawtucket's ejected manager, peering through a hole in the backstop; the sportswriters and broadcasters; a few stalwart fans shivering in the cold.

With Bottom of the 33rd, celebrated New York Times journalist Dan Barry has written a lyrical meditation on small-town lives, minor-league dreams, and the elements of time and community that conspired one fateful night to produce a baseball game seemingly without end. Bottom of the 33rd captures the sport's essence: the...

“Bottom of the 33rd is chaw-chewing, sunflower-spitting, pine tar proof that too much baseball is never enough.” —Jane Leavy, author of The Last Boy and Sandy Koufax

“What a book—an exquisite exercise in story-telling, democracy and myth-making.” —Colum McCann, winner of the National Book Award for Let The Great World Spin

From Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times columnist Dan Barry comes the beautifully recounted story of the longest game in baseball history—a tale celebrating not only the robust intensity of baseball, but the aspirational ideal epitomized by the hard-fighting players of the minor leagues. In the tradition of Moneyball, The Last Hero, and Wicked Good Year, Barry’s Bottom of the 33rd is a reaffirming story of the American Dream finding its greatest expression in timeless contests of the Great American Pastime.

From Publishers Weekly

New York Times columnist Barry provides a charming, meditative portrait of a minor league baseball game that seemed to last forever. Because of a rule-book glitch, the Pawtucket Red Sox and the Rochester Red Wings played for 33 innings on a chilly Saturday night into the Easter morning of 1981. Using the game as a focal point, Barry examines the lives and future careers of many of the players, including the then unknown Wade Boggs and Cal Ripken. Barry also profiles the Red Sox team owner, the fans and workers, and even the stadium and the depressed industrial town of Pawtucket, R.I. The game gives Barry ample opportunity to explore the world that surrounds it. Not every Triple-A player becomes a Cal Ripken, and Barry gives generous attention to those who didn't make it—the powerful outfielder who can't hit a curve, the eccentric Dutch relief pitcher with the unlikely name of Win Remmerswaal, the 26-year-old who feels like an old man among younger prospects. The three decades that have passed since the game allow Barry to track the arc of entire lives, adding emotional resonance. Barry is equally adept at describing the allure of a ballpark and the boost it can give to a struggling town like Pawtucket.

Reviews

Winner of the 2012 PEN/ESPN Award for Literary Sportswriting ( )

Dan Barry has crafted a loving and lyrical tribute to a time and a place when you stayed until the final out...because that’s what we did in America. Bottom of the 33rd is chaw-chewing, sunflower-spitting, pine tar proof that too much baseball is never enough. (–Jane Leavy )

“What a book -- an exquisite exercise in story-telling, democracy and myth-making that has, at its center, a great respect for the symphony of voices that make up America.” (–Colum McCann )

“Dan’s Barry’s meticulous reporting and literary talent are both evident in Bottom of the 33rd, a pitch-perfect and seamless meditation on baseball and the human condition.” (–Gay Talese )

“A fascinating, beautifully told story... In the hands of Barry, a national correspondent for the New York Times, this marathon of duty, loyalty, misery and folly becomes a riveting narrative...The book feels like ‘Our Town’ on the diamond.” (–Los Angeles Times )

“An astonishing tale that lyrically articulates baseball’s inexorable grip on its players and fans, Bottom of the 33rd belongs among the best baseball books ever written.” (–Cleveland Plain Dealer )

“Meticulously researched and tremendously entertaining!” (–Columbus Dispatch )

“[Dan] Barry does more than simply recount the inning-by-inning-by-inning box score. He delves beneath the surface, like an archaeologist piecing together the shards and fragments of a forgotten society, to reconstruct a time and a night that have become part of baseball lore.” (–Associated Press )

“Whether you’re a baseball aficionado or a reader who just enjoys a good yarn, you’ll love this book.” (–Minneapolis Star Tribune )

“A worthy companion to Roger Kahn’s classic Boys of Summer ...[Dan Barry] exploits the power of memory and nostalgia with literary grace and journalistic exactitude. He blends a vivid, moment-by-moment re-creation of the game with what happens to its participants in the next 30 years.” (–Stefan Fatsis, New York Times )

“Brilliantly rendered...The book is both a fount of luxurious writing and a tour-de-force of reportage.” (–Washington Post )

“[An] heroic conjuring of the past.” (–New York Times Book Review )

“[A] masterpiece...destined for the Hall of Fame of baseball books.” (–Publisher's Weekly )
Dec 30th, 2017, 2:43 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle
Dec 31st, 2017, 6:12 am
Bottom of the 33rd is a true classic.
It's probably been 5 or so years since I read it.
I had read a lot of Dan Barry in The New York Times. My sales rep for the Times
sent me a copy because he knew I was a baseball freak ;)

If anybody loves baseball, it's a good read.

And as a reminder... there is still free WRZ$ out there for new posters.
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Dec 31st, 2017, 6:12 am

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Dec 31st, 2017, 7:39 am
OK... I tried. I read the whole story in the link. I even looked up a few more stories.
And after reading it all... I still don't have a frick'n clue. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't even understand half the terms being use.
But I guess in summary, they played for 5 days to a tie.
Is that about it? :D
Dec 31st, 2017, 7:39 am

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Dec 31st, 2017, 8:30 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tied_Test

John, yes, except that it wasn't a tie. A tie is a very, very rare event in cricket, which can only happen when a team batting is bowled out with exactly the same number of runs as the bowling team. It has in fact happened, twice, but is a extremely unlikely result. Most common is that the time allotted for the test has expired, and one team is still batting. That's a draw. And that's what happened yesterday . . . at the end of five days, Australia's superstar captain, Steve Smith, and Mitchell Marsh . . . were still batting . . .

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Dec 31st, 2017, 8:30 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle
Dec 31st, 2017, 8:40 am
Semantics...
Did somebody win?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

While I understand the differences as you point them out, to me a draw is a tie by definition ;)

But, OK... a draw it is. :D
Dec 31st, 2017, 8:40 am

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Dec 31st, 2017, 9:15 am
John, did you ever read this book on the minor league baseball experience? I discovered it a couple of years ago.

'Where Nobody Knows Your Name: Life in the Minor Leagues of Baseball' by John Feinstein.

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As I mentioned earlier, my brother and I (mainly my brother) have a direct experience of this lifestyle via two professional ball players, father and son. As a result, we've gained interesting insights into what it really means to play in the minors.

This book tells a great many stories, some of them heart-breaking.
Dec 31st, 2017, 9:15 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:14 am
'The Pine Tar Game: The Kansas City Royals, the New York Yankees, and Baseball's Most Absurd and Entertaining Controversy' by Filip Bondy.

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This book was fairly entertaining . . .
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:14 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:26 am
I remember when that event occurred. My baseball buddies and I all laughed our asses off.
It was totally absurd. Numerous pine tar jokes and references are still included in baseball talk today.

I didn't know a book focusing on that event had been written.
Another one to check out.

THANKS :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:26 am

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Dec 31st, 2017, 11:32 am
John, when I do a tags:baseball search on my Calibre book database, I find that I have 195 books on that topic.

'Amazing Tales From the New York Yankees Dugout: A Collection of the Greatest Yankees Stories Ever Told' by Ken McMillan & Ed Randall

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Don't know if slynch ever does much reading about the Yankees.
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:32 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:35 am
Probably my favorite, and one ranked by many as one of the best baseball books of all time, is.

Ball Four
By Jim Bouton

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It provided a "new" view of major league baseball from an insiders perspective.

There are many reasons to read the book...
But two of my favorites are:

1) The baseball commissioner tried to get Bouton to sign a statement saying that the book was completely fictional.
(He didn't)

2) Pete Rose would yell, "Fuck you, Shakespeare!" from the dugout whenever Bouton came to bat after the book was published.

If you haven't read it, it's really worth it.

And how come I'm not surprised you have 195 books on baseball... and you like books about the Yankees :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:35 am

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Dec 31st, 2017, 11:46 am
My brother read this book and recommended it to me . . . and I know I read it quite a while ago. Due to my 'changing' memory, I can now read it again and enjoy it like it's a brand new book for me!

johngriffen wrote:Probably my favorite, and one ranked by many as one of the best baseball books of all time, is.

Ball Four
By Jim Bouton

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It provided a "new" view of major league baseball from an insiders perspective.

There are many reasons to read the book...
But two of my favorites are:

1) The baseball commissioner tried to get Bouton to sign a statement saying that the book was completely fictional.
(He didn't)

2) Pete Rose would yell, "Fuck you, Shakespeare!" from the dugout whenever Bouton came to bat after the book was published.

If you haven't read it, it's really worth it.

And how come I'm not surprised you have 195 books on baseball... and you like books about the Yankees :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dec 31st, 2017, 11:46 am

But this rose is an extra. - A. Conan Doyle