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https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?p=5884198#p5884198

I add Rewards
+10 WRZ for chapterized MP3
not one single long mp3

But the Original Requester PM me :
Hello,
Thanks for joining!
But I request you to please not make demands about chapterized mp3, not long one, etc. etc.. As you may know, there are only 2-3 nonfic audiobook uploaders! And we don't want to burden them with too many specifications. As long as the sound quality is decent, a single file would be fine too. We can always split it the way we want. There are free tools to do that. Those 2-3 nonfic uploaders post what they find. If we have demands that they can't meet, they won't post that audiobook! Also we offer very little WRZ (& that too fictional $) for all the effort they put! As long as the quality of the audiobook is decent, we should be content with their effort & help. Please correct me if I am wrong! This is only my thought & suggestion. I have seen many good audiobook uploaders vanish after some time because the members didn't value what they were doing & kept making crazy demands or asking for too many audiobooks!! I hope you will take my thought in positive way. Thanks!!

I reply with:
Hello Cosmosl

if they did not have the chapterized mp3 they will get your reward right ?
if they have chapterized mp3 they will got extra my reward

cmiiw

and if you feel the reward too small you can add the reward.
mostly on my original request I put 50 or 100 WRZ.

But for the other request I mostly just put small reward. because the original requester need to put more reward

and Cosmosl keep PM me about His opinion and want me to remove the Notes.
meanwhile I think it is not necessary as it is extra rewards if the uploader give chapterized Mp3.


What is your opinion ?

I also reply :

Thank you cosmosl
I agree that uploading it take times and effort.
as I mention earlier if you feel that the reward too small you can add it.
and for chapterized mp3 I think it is necessary for long mp3.
This is just extra reward if they have it.
otherwise they still get your reward.

and we can use the rewards to ask for other to help.
so Instead of saying the rewards to small why not adding the rewards by yourself as you are the main requester ?

this is just my opinion. and i think everybody opinion is correct

and

If I check your request . please consider to think again about the rewards
20 WRZ for audiobook is too small in my opinion.
and also the ebook rewards you give around 40 is more than the audiobook reward. meanwhile uploading ebook is easy.

please think as if you are the fullfiler who have that audiobook. do you want to upload it for 20 WRZ ?

@tomtom888,
Sorry! You're only showing one side of the story! My explanations or responses to your messages are missing beside the first message I sent which you have included! You kept missing the main point & hence I had to keep explaining. Even now, as is evident, you're missing the main point!! I had been very patiently & empathetically doing it because I felt the matter could be dealt with in a better way.. My bad that I tried to spend my time & effort to explain things to you so vividly! Anyway..

Here are my explanations/messages to you which you have "missed" including:

Hello,
Thanks. But I think you may be completely missing the point. As you may agree, this not at all about this fictional reward/ WRZ! WRZ mean NOTHING. Audiobooks cost real $$ & these uploaders are posting it for completely free as a good will! Audiobooks take time to download & then they upload it on good hosts. They are BIG files. Sometimes they convert the format, repackage them, etc. etc.. A lot of work! And they do all this for free! What we offer them in return is just few WRZ which has no value in real world but the audiobooks they post are very real! So what I'm saying is let's not get greedy about asking very specific things. As long as the sound quality of the audiobook is good, it should be fine. Rest we should manage. This is my view. As I may have mentioned, I have seen good audiobook uploaders vanish in few weeks after they started posting audiobooks. One even told me that she/he had been spending too much time posting audiobooks & had got fed up with too many requests. She/he has never posted anything after that. It's been long, more than a year easily. Anyway, it is your wish. I can only share my thoughts. Thanks for listening!

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Thanks for writng. But please don't rush into writing so impulsively that we miss the gist. Please don't miss the main point. This is NOT at all about WRZ. It's more about respecting audiobook uploaders time+effort & about not being greedy (Asking for many things when all that we offer is... nothing!).

I said WRZ are less because you're making very specific requests about chapterized, not long, mp3 etc.. If we ask many things that too for very few fictional WRZ, you think a user will post audiobooks for all those specifications everytime? They will get fed up. Already they are doing so much for totally free!
Also are we not restricting the chances of finding a audiobook? If the uploader has a audiobook but it doesn't meet all your specifications, she/he will choose not post what they have. (I'm referring to your independent requests & not ones where you make a request within my request.)

Anyway, I'm sure you now know what I've been saying. Thanks for listening!

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If you want to run me down by pointing to the WRZ I offer as a counter to my earlier thoughts, does it address the concern I have been expressing? Hope you are not doing that else the whole point of the earlier discussions will be lost.
Also, like I have said, my earlier point was not at all about WRZ.

By the way, you too offer WRZ just like mine. Not any better there.

As for the WRZ I offer, one reason I keep the WRZ at 20 is that a lot of my requests are not new releases and can be found on the internet. I do not get a chance to keep checking the internet regularly for them. Also, I cannot download from all hosts. So mostly users used to find the audiobooks on the internet & they posted host links to it or some posted it in on one of the hosts I mentioned. I anyway paid rewards even for the links they posted. Only recently there are 2-3 uploaders who post original posts.
One other reason is that I didn't have many WRZ earlier. And I had multiple requests. My WRZ have got exhausted couple of times because I didn't have enough and so I could not make new requests. So I became conservative. I will consider your point and see how to balance it all. Thanks for sharing.

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!! Yes, each one's opinion is her or his. But there are some basic considerations one has to make when in a community/Forum such as this. It's sad to see the way you approach things. Anyway..

Ah sure, please tell the admin. There's nothing wrong I've done or speaking of. Even better if you make the issue public/ create a thread etc.. Let everyone know about you & know the matter.

This is my other reply:
Thank you cosmosl
I agree that uploading it take times and effort.
as I mention earlier if you feel that the reward too small you can add it.
and for chapterized mp3 I think it is necessary for long mp3.
This is just extra reward if they have it.
otherwise they still get your reward.

and we can use the rewards to ask for other to help.
so Instead of saying the rewards to small why not adding the rewards by yourself as you are the main requester ?

this is just my opinion. and i think everybody opinion is correct

Lets wait for admin or other opinion

@tomtom,
By the way, that Subject that you have mentioned: Additional Reward Complained by Original Requester (Need Admin Opinion
The above subject you created itself is totally misleading. It wasn't mainly about the WRZ at all. I've tried explaining this to you as can be seen in my above messages but somehow you kept circling around the wrong thing! Wonder if it's intentional: to dodge the primary matter off. Or it's because of the lack of basic understanding. Anyway.. I'm just sharing things here because you seem to have made a mess out of the matter. Else I have better things to do!