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Aug 1st, 2013, 11:10 pm
What you should know about Bolt.cd’s SMods and Administrators
I am letting off a bit of steam:

I want to share with everyone here and with those who are still members of Bolt.cd community of my recent experience with Bolt.cd and their SMods and Administrator.

First let me start by telling you all that last year I was banned permanently because I was out of line and I had been disrespectful towards the SMods and I have expressed some personal feelings about many of the board’s rules publically in not a nice way. There were many other reasons why I had expressed things in the public forum because of certain attitudes coming from the SMods and Administrators. However I was disrespectful but I was also angered to the point I felt the only way to bring this out was to address this openly so others on the forum could see. Nonetheless I was wrong in the way I handled it. As disrespectful as I was, for that I am deeply sorry. Some of you Bolt members may remember me as XStars1100.

In the past last week while the board had opened registrations I registered again so that I would be able to get in contact with the Admistration to apologize for my past behavior and that I would like another chance to come back. I first contacted Veg and he wrote me back to tell me that the SMods "WILL NOT LET ME BACK", I wondered how the SMods have more power than an Administrator, but that was beside the point. Though this was a blow to me I reached out to Veg again, I expressed that it was shameful that the SMods would be that unforgiving and not accept my apologies even after a year. Again Veg replied to tell me it’s out of his hands the SMods made their decision.

So I made another effort and I PM'd all 5 of the SMods personally. I humbly expressed my sincere apologies and that I made a mistake in the way I handled things that I have regretted for a year
And have asked to be let back in and that I would not cause trouble again, and put any bad blood between us to rest and start new. I even left them all with my personal e-mail address so they could contact me. When I returned to the board to see if any left a reply this is what I was greeted with:

You have been banned for the following reason(s):
Not allowed the date that your ban will be lifted is: Never


Now As far as I am concerned at this point they all spat my sincere apologies right back in my face, nor did they even have the respect to even reply back to me to let me know if I was even forgiven for my passed behavior and to offer an explanation as to why they feel the Ban should still remain in place, not one kind word from any of them, not even Veg when he replied twice could tell me that he even appreciated or thanked me for the apology, all I got was the cold shoulder. I had a need to do and extend my hand to apologize to them as I was wrong in disrespecting them in the way that I did. However I am without words in expressing my sadness and disbelief that all of them would act so cold, unforgiving and spiteful and that not even one of them could reply to me.

If they accepted my apology and explained that even though I am forgiven that the Ban needs to stay in place as a result of my actions because this is the punishment even though I did not like it I could accept that as we all have to face the consequences of our actions, and sometimes those consequences are lifelong.

However this is not the case, as their actions towards me now clearly shows me and proves to me that the one problem I always had with them is that their actions and the way they treat some members is the very reason why they sometimes get disrespected publically. Their attitudes really stuck, and always have been hard headed, spiteful and unforgiving and they ban and give out harsh fractions at the drop of a hat, they delete posts they don’t like and they don’t like forum discussion on their conduct, and act like they are just so perfect in all their ways and when they make mistakes it’s ok for them and expect to be forgiven but in return they won't forgive others, and turn their cold shoulder.

I am sure many of you who are members of Bolt may disagree with me and that's ok as I am sure many of you have had very pleasant experiences with the SMods as I am sure they have their favorites. In the past year Bolt has been hacked, would that be unreasonable to say that was a result of the SMods Pissing off some one for the last time, as I stated their actions have been less then desirable on many occasions. Did it not occur that someone would eventually retaliate; the SMods have proven to me that they could childishly be spiteful and unreasonable. I wish Bolt well, but a word of the wise unless there is change in action, attitude and respect from the SMods what goes around will eventually come around.

Stars1100
Aug 1st, 2013, 11:10 pm
Last edited by zackddog on Aug 7th, 2013, 1:24 am, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Topic OK'yed by Admin
Aug 3rd, 2013, 6:40 pm
PS: If there are any Bolt Members here and want to share their experiences please feel free to do so, but keep it clean. My reason for this posts was to blow off a little steam, but at the same time I wanted to share the experience I had with the site. Bolt.cd is a good site, it always had been and it could be a better experience if certain things changed in the way the board is run by SMods. Again
I wish the forum well.

Stars1100
Aug 3rd, 2013, 6:40 pm
Sep 13th, 2013, 10:07 pm
Stars, the way that a forum is run (successful one's anyway) is by their rules.

I'm sure you won't like to hear this, but if you get a lifetime ban, that's what you get.

Please remember that a board Admin is a title, and not always the board owner (the person paying the bills). And from the response you got from Veg, he may well believe (rightly or wrongly), that your unhappiness, compared to undermining the authority of the Mods, is a small price to pay.

There are ways around bans, a simple Google search should help there, but if you sign up again, keep your nose clean, head down and start all over again as a newbie, new name the lot. The kudos you developed as Stars1100 is worth nothing now. In fact, as you found, it's far more of a hindrance than a help.
Sep 13th, 2013, 10:07 pm

If you see a link of mine has gone 'down', then feel free to replace the link as I may no longer have the original file.
Sep 14th, 2013, 1:41 pm
Bolt seems to be down for me lately. Anyone heard anything?

sorry about your problems, I've been a bolt member for many years and i've seen people come and go there because of stories like yours. Sad to see good uploaders gone.
Sep 14th, 2013, 1:41 pm
Sep 14th, 2013, 2:06 pm
Bolt is still there, but they're DNS isn't resolving. If you edit your host file you can still get on, but it's a lot quieter than normal. ;)

There's advice from other users on their FaceBook page if you're at all unsure how to access.
Sep 14th, 2013, 2:06 pm

If you see a link of mine has gone 'down', then feel free to replace the link as I may no longer have the original file.
Sep 14th, 2013, 2:13 pm
feenix1363 wrote:Bolt is still there, but they're DNS isn't resolving. If you edit your host file you can still get on, but it's a lot quieter than normal. ;)

There's advice from other users on their FaceBook page if you're at all unsure how to access.


whee thanks, i feel a right knob.
i had tried accessing using the ip and thought maybe my provider was now blocking it.

cheers.
Sep 14th, 2013, 2:13 pm
Sep 14th, 2013, 5:06 pm
ya bolt.cd is nuts man. I was a little ticked with the not being able to pm and all that without 30 posts. So I didn't really spam but I just started posting in different places giving vague answers and what not....all of my comments got deleted and they said I couldn't do that and they had to be "real comments". Getting 20 or 30 comments whatever the rule is would have took me a lot longer than I'd like...I'm not one for small talk.

I had a few other run ins with the mods but my god....they are more strict than a Catholic school. I think my ban happened when I logged in from another location. I guess they automatically banned me just because I was logged in at my house and then I went to my dads house and tried to log in there. It was so stupid. I then tried to explain this to the mods and they could give 2 fooks. They gave the same answer as OP.

Just a vague, YOUR BANNED FOR LIFE. Mobilism is better now, but years ago bolt.cd was where it was at for audiobooks...and today it still kind of is...no offense guys :P. But ya, I'm scared to contribute on any of these sites these days out of fear of getting the ban stick. I was afraid to even post this out of fear of getting banned.

But ya a culture change really needs to happen among moderators of websites/forums. Most of them are on such a damn power trip. It drives me nuts.

I feel for OP about bolt.cd. They are a bit nutty over there. I think I was talking to a mod once about why they never go back on any of the bans or give second chances...or maybe give a ban that isn't A LIFETIME. The mod basically said he just didn't give a crap. He doesn't want to deal with anything complicated regarding people getting banned. The mods there are just so black and white about everything. And as we know there is something in life called THE GREY AREA where most of us live.

This is probably so incoherent, my apologies for that. OP is right on the money though when it comes to bolt.cd.
Sep 14th, 2013, 5:06 pm
Sep 14th, 2013, 6:02 pm
Bolt.cd's demands before you are allowed to upload anything are ridiculous.
If I remember correctly you have to leave 30 messages on the forums before you can contribute.
That would take me years. I am not that chatty.

I've uploaded many hundreds of books to a forum that made things easy. No fussing around with images, no demands for descriptions, no demands for linking to other books in a series. Just author and title and you can upload to the forum itself. It's done in seconds. No fuss. I don't want to make a day job out of uploading my huge collection of books. I love to contribute, but I have other things to do.
Sep 14th, 2013, 6:02 pm
Sep 14th, 2013, 7:22 pm
Can't see any point in starting a new thread regarding Bolt's DNS issues, so here's what they currently have in their announcements section;

We have (temporarily ) moved to http://bolt.to/board/ while we resolve some DNS Issues, but we need YOUR help to get the word out.

PLEASE INFORM EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES BOLT OF THIS CHANGE! POST ON FACEBOOK, TWITTER, RELEVANT FORUMS, EVERYWHERE YOU CAN! LETS MAKE THIS A TEAM EFFORT!

This is extremely important while we get out emails to all users, and sort out all issues with the forum. We need to get the current address re-indexed in Google (so twitter/forum posts help) and the message out to existing users to help them find their way back ASAP.
Sep 14th, 2013, 7:22 pm

If you see a link of mine has gone 'down', then feel free to replace the link as I may no longer have the original file.
Sep 14th, 2013, 11:21 pm
Thx for the DNS info - I was wondering.

As to the OP. You admit you did some things that were worth being banned for and that you later apologised and asked to come back. They did not accept your apology, which is their right. So now you go off at them. I am thinking maybe you were not that sorry after all? Just saying.
Sep 14th, 2013, 11:21 pm
Sep 15th, 2013, 7:49 pm
Okay I admit I am a member here and there. I know firsthand that both these forums are great and cool, yes each has strengths and weaknesses. I also use the same username there and here btw. Uhm I have annoyed mods at bolt a time or two, but I used to be a sysadmin / mod /smod ,, yes it seems a power trip but bluntly when you deal with tens to thousands of users a week,,rules that are broken often will make ya cringe. How many times should a mod explain rules? (if they are written ,there ya go.)

As far as Bolt being "but my god....they are more strict than a Catholic school. I think my ban happened when I logged in from another location. I guess they automatically banned me just because I was logged in at my house and then I went to my dads house and tried to log in there. It was so stupid. I then tried to explain this to the mods and they could give 2 fooks."

Uhm I am not a mod there, or in any way a rep or important person,, but I have chatted a bit about security, and when a login or multiple logins from a single or multiple IP's happens I feel safer if the security auto-bans ,,,, (certain groups will be disanfranchised, but among those would be uhm corp or legal or law enforcement groups which share a single login, or similar IPS? (let be candid, spiders which can copy a website or cache it,,, or which can do comparing of links,, or reporting of files).
From a system standpoint I would prefer harsh structure which kicks and bans any and all suspect behavior if it protects users, and the forum. (There are many twitchy trigger fingers trying to protect that forum and for many reasons, its hard to find a place where friends can chat and exchange ideas and files, where certain political views about libel and copyright law can be expressed and explored).

I like that the mods can not be so easily bated into arguments and silence I understand sucks, but seems a safer route don't you think?

When we as people chat on a forum, we do not have inalienable rights there is no freedom of speech.. we are on computer of someone elses. I think acting adult like usually works but frankly not all forums believe the same idea of freedom of speech, Look at the UK and America,(I am American incidently) ,, My opinion is the UK is ahead on freedom of speech in that they define it better. In America libel and slander are not allowed in freedom of speech, nor is exposing ones genitals a freedom of expression in front of a minor. You see most nations have decency laws, and perverted jokes to minors is not a "freedom" speech, so my point is hate speech (ie derogatory slurs, of racial, sexual orientation, or sex) is often not allowed in some forums.

There is no universal ethics, morals, or principles,,, if you want to play in a system belonging to someone else, play by the rules, and if you can't ,the web is huge and there is always another forum...

And I like Bolt and have had some troubles in the politics chat, but then I just left(that particular area),, (my blood pressure was getting high almost every visit, so that was likely my own fault)..
Sep 15th, 2013, 7:49 pm
Sep 17th, 2013, 8:24 am
btw dns issues still ongoing so meepz has put out that bolt.to will get people in (and emails are being sent to members)
Sep 17th, 2013, 8:24 am
Sep 18th, 2013, 12:27 am
Bolt.to will bring you to the website but it will not let you sign in :-(
Sep 18th, 2013, 12:27 am
Sep 18th, 2013, 8:49 am
Fixed today !!!!!(i mean - Log-in)
Sep 18th, 2013, 8:49 am
Sep 22nd, 2013, 8:41 pm
Been a member since 2008 at bolt.cd this is my experience that i see there.

Some of the mods at least one or two at bolt should not even be mods.. i know for a fact some of them target certain up loaders and remove their posts that have working links and give you BS reasons why they did if you ask. They also hire mods that have no experience at all in being a mod. (Probably explains why they have one or two mods removing posts for no reason) Their hiring process goes like this.. wanna be a mod? Yes? Okay you are a mod. We will teach you how to be one. So you have all these under qualified mods running a muck there.. and it only takes one or two to ruin it for the many.

Socializing there is like walking on egg shells.. everyone gets offended over the littlest things. Even some will bait you into arguments then rat on you to the mods once you get pissed and swear at them.

30 post limit is pointless and causes more useless spam from users trying to get 30 post count then good... almost every day you have someone posting half assed posts in daily chit chat i would rather deal with the random malicious link spammer then people spamming comments daily. They are pretty easy to spot if you know what you are doing.

A good chunk of the regular members left the site and went to others due to mods pissing people off too. IF you were around since 2008 you would noticed all the regulars left.. they can not even have solid up loaders that stay there.. every year its a whole new batch there... and most of the older uploaders were either banned (most likely for telling the mods to piss off) or left due to a few bad mods.

Now not all mods are bad there..but the good ones are just as guilty as the bad mods for not keeping the bad mods in line. If i was a mod on a website and i was just removing posts for no good reason and pissing off uploaders.. i would get taken off the mod team.. but bolt.cd just tolerates their crappy attitudes and covers it up whenever it happens.

You can not even complain about them on the site.. if you do.. your comments are deleted and the fan boys and girls of the site will attack you regardless if you are correct or not. I also find it funny they call themselves a friendly forum.. when behind the scenes its the exact opposite.

Quite honestly i can see why bolt.cd was hacked.. the way they treat certain members its understandable someone would want to take that site out... and did.
Sep 22nd, 2013, 8:41 pm