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Mar 21st, 2009, 5:33 pm
hey guys.
The reason why I put this topic here is I used to ask this question and there was no satisfying answer,so here is my question:
Is porn against religion?
if yes so why people use porn products everywhere.and also why governments support it?
if no please tell me what is your religion !!!

maybe you want to tell many people don't have religion these days,yes I know,but it is a different story.
my question is about those who have religion.
waiting for your answer......
Mar 21st, 2009, 5:33 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:18 pm
I personally don't have religion or usually go anywhere near it.
But most governments support it because its like a three hundred trillion dollar a year genre of business.
Now think about that, if they tax let's just say 10% on each of those sales, the government gets thirty trillion dollars a year!!
That's why they'd support it. haha
Now I don't know if it's truly three hundred trillion a year,
but it is in the hundred trillions.
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:18 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:34 pm
Government and religion should be completely separate and not connected whatsoever. So Im not sure I understand your question. Government are here to enforce logical and rational laws, not moral or religious standards.
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:34 pm

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Mar 21st, 2009, 7:43 pm
codybear wrote:I personally don't have religion or usually go anywhere near it.
But most governments support it because its like a three hundred trillion dollar a year genre of business.
Now think about that, if they tax let's just say 10% on each of those sales, the government gets thirty trillion dollars a year!!
That's why they'd support it. haha
Now I don't know if it's truly three hundred trillion a year,
but it is in the hundred trillions.

So you think it is just the matter of money?so if there was no financial earning out of it,they won't support it?

lifehacker wrote:Government and religion should be completely separate and not connected whatsoever. So Im not sure I understand your question. Government are here to enforce logical and rational laws, not moral or religious standards.

I mean governments are not against it.

But....
My question is about reverence of religion and porn,are they against each other?
for example lets talk about Christians.is there any name of things related to porn in their Holy book?and I want to expand it to other religions....
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:43 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:51 pm
I'd assume that it's against any religion and know it is for sure in Islam.

To answer your question, i'm Muslim, and yes, it's against the religion to watch pornographic content.
Mar 21st, 2009, 7:51 pm

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Mar 21st, 2009, 8:10 pm
Well what I was saying is that I'm sure the money has
a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig part in them not caring!!
And the amount I stated was just for the United States,
so that genre of business is probably a thousand times more
profitable around the world as a whole than I previously stated.


But I do agree with LH and religion and government should stay separate.
But that never happens as religion was started as the first form of a government to try and govern people.
**Just stating my beliefs, please do not get offended!! I am always open to be proven wrong with religion!!**
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:10 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:39 pm
ok,I don't offended at all !
it is free talk section and everybody is free to tell their opinions,but for me reasons are so important.
I believe sticking to a thought without thinking and supporting good reasons is worthless.I really don't want to tell even porn is good or not,and also I try don't interfere my personal idea in this section,but I just want to find reasons....
so you and Lifehacker belive religion and government should stay separate,ok I accept,but what is religious opinions about porn in your society?aren't they molest with this?
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:39 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:42 pm
kareem wrote:I'd assume that it's against any religion and know it is for sure in Islam.

To answer your question, i'm Muslim, and yes, it's against the religion to watch pornographic content.


yes I know dear kareem,surly it is against Islam,I have a question from you,Why Islamic countries don't try to forbid any thing relate to porn (and we can extend to anything that in contrast with Islam such as selling wine)in their countries??
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:42 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:49 pm
My consequent question is, why should they care? The government would care if the porn industry had a major negative effect on the country, its population, or some other related aspect. You can say that the porn industry corrupts the youth and people, which brings us to a slightly different topic. Is there something wrong with watching or producing porn? In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong with either.
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:49 pm

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Mar 21st, 2009, 8:53 pm
Damn LH,
couldn't have said it any better myself. ;)
Mar 21st, 2009, 8:53 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 9:43 pm
I beg to differ on both points. Besides the fact that women are being belittled and completely undermined through the use of pornography, there are the moral and ethical issues that kick in. Your mind becomes perverted and once you get married, nothing will satisfy you because you compare everything to what you've seen.

I found an excellent topic that addresses the issue very well written by a devoted Christian: http://media.www.westerncourier.com/med ... 5753.shtml

@ sadegh_cpu, the only country "abiding" by the Islamic law is Saudi Arabia. I quote abiding because they obviously have their deviations and there's no way to stop pornogrophy anywhere. Iran claims to run on a Islamic fundamentalist government, but that's completely rubbish. Same can be said about all Muslim countries; Syria itself is ran by a dictator, however you won't see that listed. If you speak ill of Bashar al Assad there, you'll be magically reported missing withing a day or two.

Some ISPs have it filtered, however if somebody wanted to, they could easily get a proxy going and do whatever they want so there's no way for them to really stop it. I think selling wine is a little different. There are other relgions in these Islamic dominant countries that also have other religions that allow drinking, so you have to accomodate for those.
Mar 21st, 2009, 9:43 pm

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Mar 21st, 2009, 9:55 pm
lifehacker wrote:My consequent question is, why should they care? The government would care if the porn industry had a major negative effect on the country, its population, or some other related aspect. You can say that the porn industry corrupts the youth and people, which brings us to a slightly different topic. Is there something wrong with watching or producing porn? In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong with either.


Good answer MR LH
I don't care about government,experience showed that in the history,governments always use anything for reach their targets,I want to tell you I am sure if there was no money out of porn industry they won't support it at all,also as you know my government don't support porn industry (or even other things which is in contrast with Islam),but I believe if it was useful for them,they will support it for sure because policy is policy.I don't want to discuss about the relative of porn and government and I don't care if they are related to each other or not(but it is important).

yes,maybe noting wrong with watching porn movie (but I still not sure about mental affects of this),but I want to tell you the question which always occupy my mind is why porn is illegal in Islamic countries (which they are somehow religious) and it is legal in the USA and other countries with considering they have religion and I remind that in their religion there isn't anything about porn(I studied a little about other religions but if I am wrong correct me please).
so it is the matter of religion not the matter of government and also it is the matter of religious people not those who don't have religion,so talking about why those who don't have religion watch pornographic is just waist of time as we all know the answer.

so I want to ask about relationship between religion and porn with considering porn is banned in every religion (sorry for my bad English I know I had a lot of mistakes.)
Mar 21st, 2009, 9:55 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:04 pm
Here's a little synopsis along with support as to why it's forbidden is Islam: http://www.soundvision.com/Info/life/porn/isporn.asp I mentioned some of the mental affects in my previous post and if you read the article, it'll convey more.
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:04 pm

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Mar 21st, 2009, 10:22 pm
kareem wrote:Here's a little synopsis along with support as to why it's forbidden is Islam: http://www.soundvision.com/Info/life/porn/isporn.asp I mentioned some of the mental affects in my previous post and if you read the article, it'll convey more.

thanks for this post and previous one.
I want to ask people if they see any of this affects in their country(as long as I live in Iran I can not comment on them ...)
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:22 pm
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:32 pm
What has porn to do with fantasy stories?
Mar 21st, 2009, 10:32 pm

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