Mar 24th, 2018, 9:48 pm
docui wrote:As far as I recall the Black Tide Rising series did end with the VEEP taking over and pronouncing that America would rise again. (short stories are just that) Can't find the link and my googlefu seems to be weak right now.

Thats correct...

Spinoff coming out nov 18: https://www.amazon.com/Valley-Shadows-B ... john+ringo

(old thread, i know.... but new now....)

And new Honorverse october 18: https://www.amazon.com/Uncompromising-H ... avid+weber
Mar 24th, 2018, 9:48 pm
Apr 17th, 2018, 10:55 pm
robertthred wrote:
wolfgarr wrote:Am i the only one who is concerned about John Ringo's tendency to start new series before completing the ones he already has in the works?


Oh yes, I hate when authors do this. Ever read David Gerrold "war against chtorr"?



I think David painted himself into a corner with his last book.
Apr 17th, 2018, 10:55 pm
Apr 20th, 2018, 4:30 am
Unlike many writers who are homebodies and were geeks by definition, as children, John Ringo's formative years were spent in 23 countries and 14 schools before he even finished high school.
He's a fairly good looking man with a buttload of varied active physical interests, though at 55 years of age one would suppose he's gotten much of that out of his system by now.
He didn't start writing until late in life (37-ish?) but given his worldly mein probably has a LOT of stories to tell - -either original ideas or recasting tales he heard as a child in far-off lands.
He's so far authored novels in 10 different series comprised of 43? books (20 of them with some dozen collaborators), & a few stand-alone novels - and has probably another 2 good decades of writing left ahead of him.
It is fairly common for authors to step away from a series, for a time, to come up with fresh ideas - if they want to maintain the quality of the writing and not just crank out books for the sake of building a monsterous bibliography.
(An example of that would be Piers Anthony and his Xanth series books - that are probably just a bunch of reworked stories that were originally cranked out by students in his creative writing classes as an assignment of the week.)

Not all stories pour themselves out into an author's head like a never-ending L&O:SVU TV series.
Would you rather Ringo just wrote a book to tidy up a storyline/series, even if the writing was below par?
Didn't think so.

If dogged determination is your thingy, go read C.J. Cherryh's Foreigner series - currently 19 volumes and counting - but don't bitch at her for taking the time off to write a new Alliance-Union Universe novel with her S/O (due out in Jan 2019).
She's been popping out very good Foreigner novels since 1994 and mostly writes 1 per year, now that she's shed the other dozen or so series she was working on earlier in her career.
Even so, Ms. Cherryh had to exspend about a decade of thought to produce the 4 or 5 novels in each of those series.
The last 10 Foreigner novels have come out like clockwork each spring, with only 1 of them (#16-Tracker, in my opinion) less than up to her usual excellence.
After 7 novels in 7 years, the cracks were showing a bit, but with #17-Visitor, her work was right back up to snuff and then some - which ledes me to believe Tracker was something of a "marking time" novel she put out due to high demand while searching for more inspiration about where next to take the series. (Which I might have nudged along a bit, given the direction #17-Visitor took. LOL)

Personally I haven't read any full novels by John Ringo yet, (always intended to, but keep getting sidetracked by other excellent writers and seemingly less & less time for reading lately), but his contributions to anthologies were very good and so enhanced my interest in reading his collected works.
I DO have a habit of collecting books in a series and waiting for an author to either finish it or die, so I know I won't have to wait umpteen more years for the next chapter - but with writers like Drake, Weber, Cherryh, Dietz, Taylor Anderson, Niven - & Vance, MZB, Saberhagen [R.I.P. all] - that just wasn't an option.
Apr 20th, 2018, 4:30 am
Jul 8th, 2018, 4:01 pm
His "Council War" series is technically finished, or so he claims, but it's not done! He left the world hanging in the middle of the war with both sides kind of on an even footing.

This is pretty much why I don't want to read any more of his books.
Jul 8th, 2018, 4:01 pm
Aug 1st, 2018, 5:41 am
I'd love to see him finish more, at the same time it seems more that he has new inspirations that side track him. He generates such great worlds to visit that I enjoy most new ones but would still love to see some of my favorite story lines wrapped up. I'd like to see him use more collaborations to wrap up projects that he otherwise couldn't give them enough time to do them justice.
Aug 1st, 2018, 5:41 am
Aug 21st, 2018, 4:37 pm
May I ask why the latest book (Valley of Shadows) request was nuked?
Aug 21st, 2018, 4:37 pm
Aug 22nd, 2018, 3:08 am
Who? wrote:May I ask why the latest book (Valley of Shadows) request was nuked?


It's because ARCs are technically not allowed (got that response when I asked the same question a while ago).
Aug 22nd, 2018, 3:08 am
Aug 29th, 2018, 2:07 pm
Thank you for the answer.
And on a follow up note, I don't think there is anything we can do to get an exception for the Baen e-arcs, is there?
Aug 29th, 2018, 2:07 pm
Sep 7th, 2018, 2:57 am
augur42 wrote:
Who? wrote:May I ask why the latest book (Valley of Shadows) request was nuked?


It's because ARCs are technically not allowed (got that response when I asked the same question a while ago).



ARCs are allowed, requesting them is not.
Sep 7th, 2018, 2:57 am
Sep 14th, 2018, 2:08 pm
You can request the book without the added term "arc" in the request. That worked in the past, but will make trouble once the finished book can be requested.

Who? wrote:Thank you for the answer.
And on a follow up note, I don't think there is anything we can do to get an exception for the Baen e-arcs, is there?
Sep 14th, 2018, 2:08 pm
Dec 13th, 2018, 3:04 am
ORIGINAL STORIES SET IN JOHN RINGO'S BEST-SELLING BLACK TIDE RISING SERIES. The zombie apocalypse is here in these all-new stories from John Ringo, Sarah A. Hoyt, Michael Z. Williamson, Jody Lynn Nye, Travis S. Taylor, and many more. Sequel to the best-selling anthology Black Tide Rising.

Civilization had fallen. Everyone who survived the plague lived through the Fall, that terrible autumn when life as they had known it ended in blood and chaos.

Nuclear attack submarines facing sudden and unimaginable crises. Paid hunters on a remote island suddenly cut off from any hope of support. Elite assassins. Never-made-it retirees. Bong-toting former soldiers. There were seven and a half billion stories of pain and suffering, courage, hope and struggle crying out from history: Remember us.

These are their stories. These are the Voices of the Fall.

Contributors:
John Ringo
John Birmingham
Sarah Hoyt
Travis S. Taylor
Michael Z. Williams
Jody Lynn Nye
Robert Buettner
Brendan DuBois
Dave Freer
Mike Massa
Griffin Barber
Rob Hampson
Michael Gants
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Dec 13th, 2018, 3:04 am
Mar 23rd, 2019, 8:14 pm
Not just John Ringo but there are other authors that I have been waiting years for them to complete their series. Melanie Rawn. George RR Martin. Oh well; all that we can do is wait.
Mar 23rd, 2019, 8:14 pm

"Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... ." Bertrand Russell
Apr 28th, 2019, 7:56 pm
MyDigitalParadise wrote:I'd love to see him finish more, at the same time it seems more that he has new inspirations that side track him. He generates such great worlds to visit that I enjoy most new ones but would still love to see some of my favorite story lines wrapped up. I'd like to see him use more collaborations to wrap up projects that he otherwise couldn't give them enough time to do them justice.

His "collaborations" haven't had a good record. Well, that's true of Baen in general -- they get new (i.e., totally unpracticed and unproven) writers to barf out something from an "outline" and then market it under the original author's name without any hint it was ghost-written. See "Cally's War", which originally didn't mention that some other guy wrote it; it was only after much fan protest (and embarrassment for Ringo over his name being associated with writing complete crap) that they finally admitted it. Also see "Tiger by the Tail", where at least Baen was up-front about it; the story didn't make any sense and none of the characters sounded like themselves.

Meanwhile, he stopped writing the Looking Glass series supposedly because his co-author had other things to do and was tired of the huge time-sink of writing, and Ringo didn't want to continue it without him.

Also, I don't think it's that he gets "new inspirations", I think he writes himself so deep into a corner that he realizes there's no way out other than to cheat. "And then I woke up", or "With a mighty leap he freed himself from the pit trap, killed the guards with his bare hands, rescued the prisoners, and freed the entire planet."

(spoiler!!!warning!!!spoiler!!!warning!!!spoiler!!!warning!!!spoiler!!!warning!!!spoiler)

Or, for that matter, "by the way, in the last book we picked a random comet in the middle of nowhere and just happened to get some weird organism on board, and it just happened to be a bioweapon to kill the species we're fighting. Oh, and the space station we boarded magically turns us all into anime characters. Because magic."

(end spoiler warning)
Apr 28th, 2019, 7:56 pm
Sep 7th, 2019, 10:54 pm
Is anyone sure he is still alive haven’t seen anything new ofrom him for a while now
Sep 7th, 2019, 10:54 pm