[mstigerlily]

I am a Major Releaser and I really like getting thank yous. Not for the WRZ$ because I have lots BUT I really like to know I made someone's day. I also love getting little PMs from people saying I am awesome as well.

I am surprised how many people download IRT how many say thank you. Sometimes 10% of the downloaders say thank you, sometimes only 1%. I do look at how many downloaded the book, and also how many say thank you. This tells me what type of books are going to be the more popular. Sometimes I try to guess, often I am right, but sometimes I am wrong. I enjoy seeing WHO gave me thank yous as well, some people thank me a lot and when I see a request from them I go out of my way to fill it. Give me feedback, I love it. Nothing makes me happier to imagine faceless people out there settling into bed or a comfy chair and opening the book I just gave them.

Thank you all for sharing and thank you all for reading the books I bring you, I hope you enjoy them.

[jaysee]

I always "say" Thanks. It's just good manners TBH. Someone has taken the time to upload a book and post it here so the least we can do if we download is hit a simple button. There are also folks here who thank even if they don't download the book.

Just a shame that the majority can't be arsed.

[ephemeral]

I am a Major Releaser and I really like getting thank yous. Not for the WRZ$ because I have lots BUT I really like to know I made someone's day. I also love getting little PMs from people saying I am awesome as well.

I am surprised how many people download IRT how many say thank you. Sometimes 10% of the downloaders say thank you, sometimes only 1%. I do look at how many downloaded the book, and also how many say thank you. This tells me what type of books are going to be the more popular. Sometimes I try to guess, often I am right, but sometimes I am wrong. I enjoy seeing WHO gave me thank yous as well, some people thank me a lot and when I see a request from them I go out of my way to fill it. Give me feedback, I love it. Nothing makes me happier to imagine faceless people out there settling into bed or a comfy chair and opening the book I just gave them.

Thank you all for sharing and thank you all for reading the books I bring you, I hope you enjoy them.

Nicely, even lovingly, said. In essence, you took the high road. Someone, though, must take the low road. I am up to that task...

* Is it too much to ask that downloaders click on each post's thumb thingee to express their thanks? It costs them nothing, certainly no WRZ$ (debit from their treasure trove), nor their time.
* I detest the process I call RFDDaND, or Request, Fill, Download, Disappear, and Not Donate. You asked for the book, sometimes several times, you are here throughout the request and download process, and then pretend you owe nothing while you make new requests or post/participate elsewhere.
* Etc

But I want to understand, so I also perceive this issue from the downloaders' perspective...

* Only registered users can post, message, or use the thumb thingee. It is obvious this site is over-populated with 'guests'. To bring that reality in line with your and my preference, and were it up to me, I would require registration to obtain d/l links. That one change would answer some other issues that press on this site, but I realize the notion flies in the face of this site's genesis as a Scene site.
* The eBooks mods are slow to categorize New Release posts, which update includes the thumb thingee. By the time a mod does 'approve' a post, the downloaders with interest have seen the post, d/l'ed the file, and moved on.
* Thanks to posters such as merry60, Mobilism became the go-to site for quality eBooks files. (The rest of this site, not so much.) Many posters here abuse that reputation, offering crap rather than quality. For me, the reading experience is about more than black ink blots on a white page; often the author uses formatting to help tell his or her story. To each his or her own, of course.
* Posters use shitty sites as file hosts. More interested in payment for downloads, they intentionally select sites that offer slow download speeds, lengthy wait times between downloads, and the ultra-detestable, tricks to get exe files on downloaders's computers. NB to posters: If your file host requires separate and detailed instructions, it is a bad selection on your part. Please select another option.
* Several Major eBooks Releasers (MERs) fail to include at least one Mobilism-favored file host as download link. This policy is either forgotten, not known, or not enforced.
* The unwillingness on some posters' part to clearly label their posts as ARC copies. An ARC is NOT a finished version. Period. Please see my comment above re black ink blots on a white page.

I could continue but why bother: We all are innocent; we all are guilty. I wish I receive more thumb thingee votes than I do, but all my caterwauling will change nothing. It is what it is, and will ever be.

Thanks again for your post, your gracious nature, and for providing me the opportunity to vent.
ephemeral

[mstigerlily]

I have to admit when I see that 10 people said thank you and 200 people downloaded I am a wee bit disappointed - BUT...I think people aren't used to saying thank you and this formal atmosphere we have. I know I myself downloaded tons of books (sometimes badly formatted and bundled with 1000 other crap books I didn't want) on Pirate Bay and my husband tons of movies with nary a thank you to anyone. I assume people just don't know, or consider a thank you is warranted. I had a hard time getting used to the requirements to post here and all the rules, I almost gave up! Glad I stayed though!

I thought you had to register to download, so that is news to me. I categorize my own posts as a MER but yes I remember before that they were slow to categorize. As far as file hosts, maybe many people don't know all the options out there, or maybe they don't see it from the downloader perspective. More interested in payment for downloads. OMG, is there such a thing? I literally had no idea. Anyway, I prefer not to link my RL information with my cache of pirated books so I'm never doing that. I honestly just do it because I enjoy reading and want to share the good books I find.

I didn't know about the Mobilism favored file host, and again, I think some people don't realize. I never realized mafiastorage was onerous to get through until you PM'd me and told me. Since your PM, I've used solidfiles exclusively, which BTW is an excellent host, everything stays forever and when books are deleted by the admin, it is quietly and without drama. No problems.

If I see a poster doesn't have enough money to make requests, but they are a friend of mine or even if they are not, I will often gift them with some $WRZ. Why not, it doesn't cost me anything. I would rather give a poster the $WRZ to pay the reward than have them not pay it. Hey so if anyone needs some mobilism money, just ask

[ephemeral]

"I have to admit when I see that 10 people said thank you and 200 people downloaded I am a wee bit disappointed"

I agree; i.e., me too.

"BUT...I think people aren't used to saying thank you and this formal atmosphere we have"

Most parents train their children from when they are toddlers to say thank you. How is it this site differs? Saying "thank you" is only common courtesy.

MERs must include as a primary or secondary link one of the following Mobilism supported file hosts...

unlimitzone.com, uploading.com, extabit.com, rapidshare.com, rapidgator.net, uploaded.to, uploaded.net, ul.to, hugefiles.net, depositfiles.com, dfiles.ru, dfiles.eu, zippyshare.com, 2shared.com, rg.to

You are a MER and do not use one of the above sites... Why not?

I am no Oracle, nor an oracle; I am only me. As such, everything I say is open to fact-checking and confirmation.

My general thesis is that everything - here, and in Life - should always be as easy as possible; on this site, that means for posters, downloaders, mods, and All. Efforts to confuse, confound, profit, scam, etc ultimately are counter-productive. People learn, and come to know who you are.

[Tidal]

As someone who has posted all of two book releases, I appreciate the information and points of view expressed in this thread.

I, too, am surprised that people needn't be registered to use the download links. However, given my (years past) HTML coding experience, am uncertain how this could be avoided. If people see the URL of links - either already in view or coming into view by right-clicking -, then they can always copy and paste the URL into a new window. I dimly recollect that there's a way to disable right-clicking and to hide the HTML source of a page. But then that would apply for everyone, registrants included. Perhaps an alternative is to hide from 'guests' the directory containing eBook Releases and/or the directory containing Fulfilled eBook Requests, as is done with other directories. That may be too drastic, however, and counter-productive in terms of encouraging people to consider registering. If they don't know what Mobilism has to offer…, (and how would that work with search engine caching??...

WRT ephemeral's point:

The notion [of registering to obtain d/l links] flies in the face of this site's genesis as a Scene site.

I don't understand what that means, but suspect it has something to do with Mobilism's raison d'être. Perhaps, as populations will do from time to time with their country's Constitution, consideration of adding an Amendment might be in order?

[ephemeral]

Almost everything you could want to know re WAREZ (get it? WRZ $) and Scene...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez

Well, it is a start, at least. There is more to know, and understand, but the Wiki link provides the rudiments.

[Tidal]

Fascinating. I love it!

*Must get my loon a disguise*

Re the Thank You button…. Was disheartening as a first-time releaser to see hundreds of views of my release and still no Thank You button. And yes, I found that the feature I liked best about the button was seeing the names of the people taking the 'trouble' to thank me. I will remember them.

The low-lifes who don't bother clicking Thank You buttons can retain their anonymity - and lose the benefit of other people's goodwill. There's always a cost somewhere down the line.

[mstigerlily]

I didn't know those were the requirements till you told me ephemeral. That's the only reason. I am not familiar with most of them except zippyshare.com and rapidgator. I did not like rapidgator. Will check out the others. Thanks

[ephemeral]

Again, I am not the source of answers. I think I know, but that does not mean I actually know. The policy is here somewhere...

More important, though, is that when I said

You are a MER and do not use one of the above sites... Why not?

I meant you as all MERs, not solely mstigerlily. I could have stated that better to avoid confusion and hurt feelings, and that is 100% my error. Sorry.

I registered just to say thank you, but I didn't know about the button you could click, so I left a message saying thank you. A mod told me not to do it, and told me about the button. I use it now.

How do you guys know about the amount of people downloading your releases? Also, you are making me sad, I feel like going around releases just to thank them, even if I don't download.

[Tidal]

It's members like you, Read, that make the effort worthwhile. I felt terrific - as I wrote to someone earlier today, all "warm and fuzzy inside" - when I saw those thank-you's on my first-ever release. They're encouragement to do more of them.

[mstigerlily]

No hurt feelings ephemeral, I'm glad you made me aware. zippy tends to deleted very quickly and so does rapidgator plus they have long URL names that are annoying. A mod here recommended solidfiles so I use them. I was not aware of the rules, I will check the others out.

Read, we know how many people downloaded it because the file server host tells us. For example on this release as of this writing:

viewtopic.php?f=121&t=698512

695 clicked to view my release post, 41 people said thank you, 297 people downloaded it. That is actually a pretty high percentage of thanks yous vs downloads.

[Monika330]

I was downloading without being registered, but like Read, I registered JUST so I could click "thank you". I, too, click it on books that don't interest me because I appreciate that someone went to all the effort. Heck, I can barely figure out how to post on this board, much less all the other stuff.

Many thanks to the MER's! And to this site! I'll go VIP the next sale-didn't have any $$ in my Paypal account the last one!

mstigerlily, I let you know right now...You are Fantastic !

And I am your one of your fan club. I do appreciate many books you shared with us and click " Thanks " every times. ( If the button is not available, I will come back later )

I'm not sure why people don't actually click " Thank You " ( probably not available when book just released ). I did share books too but not much like you do but I feel the same way

I shared books in many category and I found...

People who most clicked " Thank You " are category " Mystery/Thriller
And least clicked " Thank you " are category " General Fiction/Classics "
And I love to share " General Fiction/Classics " ....LOL