Oct 29th, 2012, 5:38 pm
There's a new news item out about Amazon.
I believe it alleges Amazon has been overcharging on the VAT taxes in Europe and pocketing the difference.
It also alleges that Amazon is exerting undue power over the publishers due to their sales and marketing clout.
Oct 29th, 2012, 5:38 pm
Oct 29th, 2012, 5:41 pm
ellabankss wrote:I dont use the Amazon cloud, just got a new Kindle Fire HD a week ago, are my books safe?


if you purchased your books from amazon then they are safe. however, if you have books which you have borrowed, loaded on your kindle, and you use whispernet then amazon will know and can take steps to cancel your account.

Clearly amazon has a conflict of interest in this matter and they have shown which way they are going.
Oct 29th, 2012, 5:41 pm
Oct 29th, 2012, 8:57 pm
Sorry, I'm new here and have only been using a Kindle for the past 8 months or so. How can amazon just shut down her account and wipe her Kindle???? I have to say, I've purchased quite a few books, from amazon, for my Kindle, and have also borrowed and loaned out books. I thought all of this was okay???
Oct 29th, 2012, 8:57 pm
Oct 29th, 2012, 9:27 pm
Kelbellesl wrote:Sorry, I'm new here and have only been using a Kindle for the past 8 months or so. How can amazon just shut down her account and wipe her Kindle???? I have to say, I've purchased quite a few books, from amazon, for my Kindle, and have also borrowed and loaned out books. I thought all of this was okay???


Basically, go to Amazon and "Manage Kindle" and turn off whisper sync. Or as Red pointed out turn off your 3G or 4G and your wifi connection to the kindle as well. Basically Amazon is saying that your purchasing is only like a loan and we can cancel your loan as we see fit to protect our business model. If you legitimately purchase a book then your okay. But if your someone like me who will load up a kindle with books that weren't exactly purchased through Amazon then they could shut you down. First thing is to be wise with what you do on the kindle and your books. If you practice modesty then maybe you should be fine. Second is obviously the recommendation to shut off your connections with the Amazon database by turning off data capabilities. But turn them on ONLY when needed (I.e. purchase another book or whatever) then turn it off again.
Oct 29th, 2012, 9:27 pm
Oct 30th, 2012, 12:29 pm
No question that Amazon's actions are misguided and wrong. This is not the first time, nor will it be the last [time], the company finds itself on the wrong side of popular opinion. Problem is this entire market, from hardware (eReaders and tablets) to software (eBooks) moves rapidly - too rapidly for publishers and Amazon to keep up. So they misstep on occasion. I view the publishers' decisions and actions as especially flagrant because they force consumers and middle-men, such as Amazon, into untenable positions.

Bottom line: You can own a Kindle AND use Amazon's whispernet, and still protect (retain) the eBooks you purchase from Amazon's l o n g reach. Various methods exist to accomplish just that objective. If instead you prefer another eReader... well, read this article before you decide. (fwiw, I use and prefer the iPad.)

As a side note, any vendor can provide either the conduit or the content but never both, as the two positions are mutually exclusive.
    * For publishers, that means controlling the flow of books to market, whether print or digital. And ATTEMPT to control its pricing and availability. This attempt creates the pursuit by the US Justice Dep't, and EU governmental bodies, of publishers, Apple, etc. And why, while shopping for an eBook on Amazon, you see the comment "price set by publisher" - iow, not by Amazon. (It also explains, in minor part, why Amazon does not sell ePUB versions of books.)
    * For middle-men (again, such as Amazon), you provide either the venue for consumers to purchase content from elsewhere (Amazon's business model from its inception) or you provide the content (Amazon's new business model, in their new role as publisher). This is why all other booksellers refuse to sell the books Amazon publishes. And places Amazon in the unenviable position of protecting its turf by refusing to sell books from other publishers.

When the turf wars ensue, the consumer (you, me, us) is always named as being the cause and reason. Do not buy that claim even for a moment. Publishing is in a state of upset while it figures out this eBooks revolution. And it is a revolution; publishers' walled garden is under major assault. The world of publishing today is very different from yesterday. And even more different from the day prior. Talk about a constant state of flux. You and I, in our many guises, play an important role in this revolution, but we are not the deciding factor, not by a long shot, despite the publishers' cries and moans.
Oct 30th, 2012, 12:29 pm

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Oct 30th, 2012, 11:12 pm
The problem I see with the blog post is that we're not sure what kind of books she had, whether the majority was bought & paid for or what.
Oct 30th, 2012, 11:12 pm
Oct 31st, 2012, 2:47 am
ephemeral wrote:....... If instead you prefer another eReader... well, read this article before you decide. (fwiw, I use and prefer the iPad.)


What holds me back from getting a tablet is the batterly life. My e-reader (Hanlin, not a kindle) lasts weeks on one charge. Taking a 15 hour plane ride is not a problem (I live in Australia, that's how long it takes to fly directly to the States). Going away for the weekend/week, I don't need to worry about recharging. Sure, it's only a charger but I like to travel light and I also spend a lot of time in places where charging is either not an option or difficult.
Oct 31st, 2012, 2:47 am
Oct 31st, 2012, 5:35 am
teasemywombat wrote:The problem I see with the blog post is that we're not sure what kind of books she had, whether the majority was bought & paid for or what.


I THINK it'd be kind of obvious. If Amazon "sees" that you have books that aren't legit (bought or transferred using a free site [mobilism doesn't count, I mean like project Gutenberg]) then it will more than like deem those as fraudulent acquisitions and take necessary action. Cause if your not buying then they aren't making money.
Oct 31st, 2012, 5:35 am
Oct 31st, 2012, 12:40 pm
What I didn't understand is: What's the danger?
Ok they shut your account down and you can't buy their books anymore. Can you still, for example, download books from places like mobilism and read them or do they block the reader so that it doesn't work anymore?
Oct 31st, 2012, 12:40 pm
Oct 31st, 2012, 2:29 pm
shardanmobi wrote:What I didn't understand is: What's the danger?
Ok they shut your account down and you can't buy their books anymore. Can you still, for example, download books from places like mobilism and read them or do they block the reader so that it doesn't work anymore?


It doesn't look like it. It's just that you lose your Amazon Account or so it seems from what I've read and anybody else who has read it as well.
Oct 31st, 2012, 2:29 pm
Oct 31st, 2012, 2:51 pm
Whilst I haven't got a kindle reader (Android), I have downloaded their Kindle for PC app.
any books from amazon go there automatically. These are my only books in the app.

Ps. I also have calibre & use this to transfer all my books to the reader (after tweaking, covers, tags & series)

This could also work for kindle users, who don't want the direct wi-fi.
Oct 31st, 2012, 2:51 pm
Oct 31st, 2012, 6:44 pm
mesquite wrote:
shardanmobi wrote:What I didn't understand is: What's the danger?
Ok they shut your account down and you can't buy their books anymore. Can you still, for example, download books from places like mobilism and read them or do they block the reader so that it doesn't work anymore?


It doesn't look like it. It's just that you lose your Amazon Account or so it seems from what I've read and anybody else who has read it as well.


Thanks mesquite. Well....such being the case, I couldn't care less if the shut down my Amazon account.
Oct 31st, 2012, 6:44 pm
Nov 1st, 2012, 12:43 pm
This isn't the first time I've heard of this happening, and when I read about this sort of draconian crap from Amazon it makes me very happy I didn't buy a Kindle. :) As it is I remove the DRM from all my purchases as soon as I have made them so I can put the books on my non-Kindles. Presumably Amazon won't know anything about what I am doing since only Amazon books are on my Kindle reader app.

#bohica - FWIW I started with a Kobo Touch, but I found its "touch" is very touchy and sluggish, so I got quite frustrated with it. Maybe it's just my Kobo, since others who have them are more than happy with them. I bought a Nook Color next - FABULOUS, because you can buy a 32GB SD card for about $30 off ebay and turn it into a full Android tablet if you want to, which I did. Meanwhile, my granddaughter has nicked said Nook, so I bought myself a generic Android tablet (DXtreme 703B FWIW) and popped a 32GB card in it. I am so thrilled with this little tablet I can't tell you! It cost me about $115AU (Australia) so something similar would be under $100 anywhere else in the known universe. I use an Android reader that is absolutely fantastic (Mantano) and because of the Android can shop any of my favourite bookstores at any time directly from the tablet. The biggest advantage of Kindles and Kobos (and other e-ink readers) is their non-reflective screens, but as I do 99% of my readiing indoors that's not an issue for me - plus I have my Kobo if going on a long car trip. And I like technicolor book covers. :)
Nov 1st, 2012, 12:43 pm
Nov 6th, 2012, 8:50 pm
This has been a real eye opener, thanks for the heads up. I'm not going to let my Kindle use the WiFi any longer, it's frightening that they could just wipe the whole lot at a stroke of the key if they felt like it. I'm deleting the books I had sent via email to my Kindle and in future I'll just use the USB as it seems to be a much safer option. Damn big-brother mentality these days can't just leave folk be =(
Nov 6th, 2012, 8:50 pm

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Nov 7th, 2012, 8:13 pm
I simply don't understand how these decisions are taken unilaterally. As a customer you should at least have some sort of protection four your own data.
Not cool.
Nov 7th, 2012, 8:13 pm