[REALwhispa]

Orlando, FL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlssjxbrATI

[tigerocelot]

[dante11]

when will these fools realize we all bleed the same color?

[Weelee]

My heart is so sore for the victims and their loved ones in Orlando Florida

https://youtu.be/y8AWFf7EAc4

Be at peace


And I've seen your flag on the marble arch
And love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

[airdragon]

So many death, so many wounded.....
I will never understand. I'm so terribly sad and I don't know what to say.....

[FredM]

It's absolutely horrible. How many more die before the U.S. does something about it's gun obsession?

Condolences to the families of those victims.
Let's lighten our day with this Oh-so-ridiculously-good-looking-fella! Would never get enough of you. <3

[dante11]

another act of hatred--WHY??? ---dante

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/23 ... ed-16.html

[tinternrose]

World has gone so scary, I am afraid for my children. how?? why?? what for?? are questions I ask myself everyday, when news of another tragedy breaks.

[dante11]

i know this may sound selfish, but for personal reasons, i decided not to have children-and when i see events like these unfolding-i am relieved....what kind of world are we leaving today's children? it both scares me, and hurts me!!

[Weelee]

My 30 year old son sent me this ..with the message: (During my long hospital stay - illness- I was ready to give up).

"Mumma, I listen to this song and thought of you when you were at your worst, Listen and watch till the end"

https://youtu.be/gqu1xWchSog



There is hope for our kids, they've just got to adapt to a world full of hateful people, most will, others will become all that we hate

Some of you may be too young to remember our Grandfathers/fathers going to fight a senseless war against people who are now our friends - The Germans, The Japanese, The Russians and so on

We just gotta get through this

There have always been hatred, war, avarice, homophobia, xenophobia... you name it.

The difference today is the technology that allows us to know about it when and where it happens (some of it).

My first grandchild was born last month, and I have as much hope for him as I had for my own children. He has more chance to live a great life.

Some things DO change for the better. When my children were born, it would have been against the law of this country for my daughter to marry her husband. (They are both nn-th generation south Africans, but his family was classified as 'Indian' - and I am from Voortrekker stock) Even though you still get cases of racism here in South Africa, at least the law is against it.

But like everything else. The crime, the hatred, the violence, you have to also consider the world population, compared to the amount of human beings that goes "wrong". What is the percentage? 1%? .05?

You are NOT going to read or hear or see about the billions of people that spends their days living and loving and being helpful and compassionate. That is not going to sell newspapers or draw viewers or generate advertising income.

Acknowledge that small percentage of the world that is 'wrong', but do not concentrate on it and let it screw your view of our wonderful world. Feel compassion for the victims of these people, and pray for them if it is your inclination, then take some time to look around you find find those quiet miracles of humanity around you. They are there, and there are more of them than you think.

Acknowledge those too. Those people who is RIGHT. The firefighters, the nurses, the care workers. The neighbour who goes to the store for the old lady next door. The young man opening a door for the woman dealing with her children at a store. So many small examples.

Look for them, and then let THAT influence your world view.

[airdragon]

There have always been hatred, war, avarice, homophobia, xenophobia... you name it.

The difference today is the technology that allows us to know about it when and where it happens (some of it).

My first grandchild was born last month, and I have as much hope for him as I had for my own children. He has more chance to live a great life.

Some things DO change for the better. When my children were born, it would have been against the law of this country for my daughter to marry her husband. (They are both nn-th generation south Africans, but his family was classified as 'Indian' - and I am from Voortrekker stock) Even though you still get cases of racism here in South Africa, at least the law is against it.

But like everything else. The crime, the hatred, the violence, you have to also consider the world population, compared to the amount of human beings that goes "wrong". What is the percentage? 1%? .05?

You are NOT going to read or hear or see about the billions of people that spends their days living and loving and being helpful and compassionate. That is not going to sell newspapers or draw viewers or generate advertising income.

Acknowledge that small percentage of the world that is 'wrong', but do not concentrate on it and let it screw your view of our wonderful world. Feel compassion for the victims of these people, and pray for them if it is your inclination, then take some time to look around you find find those quiet miracles of humanity around you. They are there, and there are more of them than you think.

Acknowledge those too. Those people who is RIGHT. The firefighters, the nurses, the care workers. The neighbour who goes to the store for the old lady next door. The young man opening a door for the woman dealing with her children at a store. So many small examples.

Look for them, and then let THAT influence your world view.

All this sounds really nice KayM, but excuse me when I cannot agree with your sweet talk....

This rampage on friday happened in my hometown.
In my lifetime, this is the third big rampage and terrorist attack we had to witness here in Munich.
The first one was 1972 when arabic terrorists murdered jewish sportsmen. At the end 17 people had to die.
The second happened 1980, when a very young right-wing terrorist bombed himself right up in his right-wing-nazi-heaven, and with this bombing, which took place on Oktoberfest, he killed 13 people and injured another 211 people. 68 were injured very very badly, two of them were friends of friends of mine. One lost both legs, the other had severe head injuries and couldn't function normally ever again.
If you want to know how that looked like, have a look here:
https://www.google.de/search?q=Oktoberf ... 00&bih=760
A week ago a young 17 year old refugee attacked a chinese tourist family with an ax and a knife (two are still in extrem critical condition), then jumped out of the train and attacked a woman who walked her dog. She also was injured life-threatening. This happened in Bavaria also.
Last friday we had this rampage with 9 death and more than 30 injured (last count I heared today in the morning-news).

So please don't tell me how nice and wonderful our world is!
Look at the news each and every day and tell me that the world is now a better place than it was years ago!
Tell the families of all this people that the percentage is low, compared with all the people who lives on this wonderful world.
Tell the Munich population not to be worried about sick suicide terrorists, when the next Oktoberfest with 100 and 100 of thousands visitors each and every day will beginn in only 2 month.....

A positive worldview is a wonderful thing, but please don't overlook the realities!

I am not telling you to overlook the realities. They exist. They HAVE existed since the first caveman clubbed another one over the head to steal his meal.

I grew up in Apartheid South Africa in a moderate home. We learned to keep our views to ourselves. And our friendships behind doors. I spent some time nursing, and I spent some time in the military. (Although women were not conscripted, our men were, and if they objected conscientiously, or heaven forbid, were gay, they were imprisoned or similar punishments.) I lost family to terror attacks, and I have family living with PTSD for the things they were forced to do and witness. I myself helped in the aftermath of more than one bombing.

Currently our crime rates are so high that it is unusual for a private home not to be behind high walls or palisade with electric fencing on top, and that does not stop the fatal home invasions. Old people that gets tortured before they are murdered.

All I am saying is that if you only focus on that, you are ignoring the majority of the world around you.

I cannot look at every person in the world as a prospective criminal. Sorry.

[airdragon]

All I am saying is that if you only focus on that, you are ignoring the majority of the world around you.

I cannot look at every person in the world as a prospective criminal. Sorry.

Do you imply I do? Thanks so much
And before you imply further: I'm no rassist and no biggot, and no whatever-phob, never was, never will be.
I was involved in a refugee's-help 'till a family member got seriously ill and my priorities changed. But right now I'm extremely fed up because one day after another some seriously demented person believes he has the right to kill people because he feels like that.....

I don't want to hear and read any longer about bombings and shootings like the one in Paris last November with more than 130 death and more than 350 injured, shootings like the one in Orlando with so many death and injured also. I don't want to hear or read about that sick fuck who drove a truck right in a crowd of people in Nice/France, which were celebrating their independence day. More than 80 people died and hundereds got injured! I'm tired of reading/hearing about the deaths in my hometown, or the ax-attack in a train in Wuerzburg. I'm sick to death hearing yesterday in the morning about an attack of a young syrian guy who killed a woman with a manchete in Reutlingen/Baden Wuerttemberg and injured others and then waking up today in the morning and hearing that another sick guy tried to kill people in Ansbach/Bavaria yesterday in the later evening. He tried to get on the ground of a music festival, but he failed -thank god!, so only he died in this bomb-explosion, but 12 people got injured.

I'm sad and really fed up with all this shit going on and my heart is bleeding, so again, excuse me when I can't agree with your philosophical reflections about young guys opening doors for mothers in the store or neigbors helping little old ladies! The only young guys I heared about in the last few weeks, are the ones with the weapons!
And this is the last I will have to say to this topic.